The Inner Thoughts of Toddimus

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Saturday, February 19, 2005

Repent!

Some new whacko out there named Terr-ill has been sending his self righteous garbage on the mailing lists I subscribe to. He wrote me this morning.

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Do with what you will, this will be my last post to you. This comes from the Lord.

To Todd Jumper:
Thus saith the Lord, you shall have no other gods before me, and you have placed your own heart above me, and I am not well pleased, but am angered at your wickedness and do cut you off from before my face, that you have no place in my will or with me, save you repent, and my
arms are open to receive you, but you will not, and I will cause a plague to come upon your house holds save you repent and remember my name, even Jehovah, which is Jesus Christ, amen.

From service@cpuexpert.com
Feel free to send spam his way.

posted by Todd Jumper @ Saturday, February 19, 2005  

27 Comments:

  • At 11:41 AM, Blogger Todd Jumper said…

    Doc Hansen wrote:
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    http://www.cpuexpert.com/LDSletter.htm

    Elder Terrill R. Dalton also known as Gabriel, who is the Holy
    Ghost, also known as the one Mighty and Strong, and also Elijah
    Prophet, Seer, Revelator President of the Church of the Firstborn
    and the General Assembly of Heaven, under the direction of Jesus
    Christ.


    From an internet search:
    ------------------------
    FOLLOWING Terrill R. Dalton AND Geody M. Harman TO TOTAL DESTRUCTION
    ALMOST!
    by "REAL INCOME AT HOME" Rogermartin Aug 31, 2004 at 08:28 PM


    FOLLOWING Terrill R. Dalton AND Geody M. Harman TO TOTAL DESTRUCTION
    ALMOST!

    This letter is to show people --what consequences will happen to lds
    or Mormons or any one else who follows these two false prophets --
    who claim to be great witnesses of the Lord Jesus Christ,found in
    11th chapter of Revelations!

    I'm still a faithful latterday saint and intend to remain that way,
    but I was almost taken in and destroyed by these two, who use vary
    cunning devices of devil, including translating or coming up with
    false scriptures daily or almost daily, and other spontaneous
    revelations daily or as needed, to deceive people.

    Flattery or calling of the ELECT OF GOD, who are better than every
    one else, and calling them to apostleship or other high callings,
    especially those that can do similar instantaneous revelations,
    dreams or visions or other so called gifts of God!

    Plus they do not follow revealed truths given in the lds faith,
    which go against temple covenants, and church standards which have
    been long established.

    Some are so far out there is no possible connection with any thing
    revealed in the bible or any other possible scriptures -- lets alone
    lds ones like the book of mormon or doctrine and covenants etc. PGP

    Like no sexual relationships with any one except those that you are
    legally and lawfully married to, THE ABOVE IS WHAT WE COVENANT TO IN
    THE LDS TEMPLES BUT NOT SO WITH CHURCH OF FIRST BORN THAT GEODY AND
    TERRILL HAVE CREATED! and how they get around that and promote
    sexual freedoms with both [Daughters and sons of god,] as they call
    them, which means they can have sex with any one they please, as
    they are "inspired" to do.

    Which means any one they feel they need to have sex with, as long as
    they are adults and consent to do so with you, than its ok, if it
    truly is inspired, regardless of the social, medical, moral or church
    excommunication for doing so.

    They claim, that people especially members of the lds faith do not
    pray, and are not getting answers to their prayers, they are just
    following the letter of the hand book, and other text books, etc --
    but that's because they don't feel right around them, Geody and
    Terrill, and especially they don't get the same answers as these too
    do! So we are not praying or asking a right any more, but the lord
    is still in charge of both churches, the church of first born, which
    they alone lead, and the church of Jesus Christ of latter day
    saints, which they now have all the keys for and two more at least
    than the current Prophet, Gordon B. Hinckley, has but he's still a
    good man. But Terrill is better, in other words and has more power
    and authority, plus priesthood keys, etc.

    BESIDES - I THOUGHT -- A HOUSE DIVIDED CAN NOT STAND SOUNDS DIVIDED
    TO ME!

    Remember, Terrill is just doing what the Lord is telling him to do,
    and nothing more, he does not read other men's books or writings,
    just gets all he needs from revelation OF the lord.

    Oh the reason he can do so is because he is the Holy Ghost in the
    flesh, and any one who disagrees with him is denying the holy ghost
    and is going to hell! That's right! This is the only sin in which
    there is no forgiveness of in this life, and you will became a son
    or daughter of perdition! Meaning you will go to hell for ever!
    Just because we have forgotten how to pray and can't get the same
    answers as he is!

    Now -- I know this way over most lds members heads, but let me put in
    simple terms that you can not mistake, if you become a member of the
    church of first born, you will eventually be excommunicated, for
    polygamy, and other immoral sins, paying tithing to them and I
    didn't tell you, will be putting it into his checking account, and
    that will cause problems with the irs to say the least! Unless he
    smartens up and creates -- a new account so they the irs -- can take
    him to court or jail for illegal practices.

    Oh did I tell you that the leaders will all be doing this or be --
    sons and daughters of god thing, meaning having sex with almost any
    one they want to, as long as its inspired!

    Also, I may have forgotten to mention, that you will be asked to
    live the law of consecration too, and soon. For those that are
    clueless, you will put every thing you own or possess into the
    control of a bishop who will be appointed by revelation of Geody or
    Terrill, who will than give back to you what you need etc.

    There are at least one or two other apostles who can now receive this
    RAPID AND ALMOST DAILY revelation just as detailed and fast as Geody
    and Terrill can, and I assume there will be others too. Does this
    make any of it true, no! It just means satan has already fully and
    completely deceived others too, and he knows who they are and they
    will become the leading apostles in this church of the first born!
    What a show this is going to be in time -- as this grows!

    Before I get going in that direction, it means -- if you are lds you
    will loose your temple recommend, you will be excommunicated, you
    will pay tithes and offerings to these two, and you will eventually
    be asked to live his form of the united order or law of
    consecration, plus you will have many sexual partners, among other
    things, yet to be revealed!

    Moral, Social, Financial and other problems will attend you to your
    road of destruction, truly an inspired road of satan!

    If all the above is not bad enough, the leaders or apostles and
    others will have to read and understand revelations and other things
    from Geody and Terrill that THEY CURRENTLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND, for
    example - Transverse time -- going forward in time or backwards in
    time to do some thing for God, sounds a like a new version of
    reincarnation, or How about gods time which is no time but always
    going in all directions with no time, but the best one of all is man
    going in reverse time, which means adam is actually the last born
    and the judgment of God was first -- or the great and last day of
    judgment was first -- Now this thing Terrill tried several times
    to explain but there is no way he could, but you're supposed to fall
    in line and just believe it, pray about it and accept it etc.

    Get this there is even greater mysteries to come and they will be
    even harder to understand etc. So much for quickening the mind and
    spirit of man so he can understand the mysteries of God!

    Remember its because you are not praying and don't have the spirit
    of god, or you just don't have enough faith to understand these
    great mysteries! It goes on and on -- almost daily--

    Its simple follow some thing that is simple and understandable,
    follow the true apostles and prophets of god, which are the first
    presidency and the 12 apostles in the CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF
    LATTER DAY SAINTS, NOT THE TWO FALSE WITNESSES GEODY AND TERRILL,
    WHO CLAIM TO BE FIRST AND SECOND ELDERS WHO ARE LEADING AND
    GATHERING THE ELECT IN THE CHURCH OF THE FIRST BORN!

    This is from Roger L. Martin who was a PAST APOSTLE IN THE CHURCH OF
    THE FIRST BORN, ORDAINED BY GEODY AND TERRILL, who was also
    supposed to have day visions and night dreams, etc etc. all of which
    never happened and there were many other things that were supposed
    to happen, and never did, boy am I glad THEY DID NOT HAPPEN!


    I WILL SEND A COPY OF THIS LETTER TO Terrill -- I'M SURE I WILL BE
    EXCOMMUNICATED OR EVEN GO TO HELL NOW FOR FIGHTING AGAINST THE HOLY
    GHOST IN THE FLESH OR TERRILL -- and I'll never be sucked into such
    foolish things gain, -- Oh I was supposed to name the other 11
    apostles of the FIRST quorum of them, and there are to be two
    quorums of these 12 apostles, making 24 in total! Now that I
    failed -- oh I was supposed to prophecy on one Sunday and didn't!

    Terrill or Goedy keep naming new apostles -- I guess I couldn't
    pray well enough to pull it all off, I can only thank God I didn't
    have the day vision and night dreams, maybe there is some one who is
    more powerful out there after all!

    I'LL KEEP PRAYING AND FOLLOWING THE SIMPLE FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS OF THE
    GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST LIKE FAITH REPENTANCE BAPTISM, GIFT OF HOLY
    GHOST AND ENDURING TO THE END IN RIGHTEOUSNESS ETC. AND LEAVE THE
    MYSTERIES ALONE
    --

    UNTIL GOD WANTS TO REVEAL THEM TO ME, AND IF THAT DOES HAPPEN I'M
    SURE I WILL UNDERSTAND THEM COMPLETELY!

     

  • At 3:00 AM, Anonymous Carrie said…

    Okay, that was really hard to read and understand...can someone sum that up in a nutshell?? Too much to read and it just kept going and going and going.....thanks.

     

  • At 7:56 PM, Blogger Todd Jumper said…

    Yes here it is in a nutshell.

    Terril claims to be the Holy Ghost. Anyone who speaks up to Terril or disagrees with him turns into a cursed son of perdition.

    Yet Terril is allowed to call himself "dumb" So he speaks against himself, the holy Ghost, therefore according to him, the holy Ghost is now damned for eternity and we are all screwed.

     

  • At 3:56 PM, Anonymous Unimpressed said…

    I know where this guys lives. I can send you a picture of his hovel if you like.

    He has 2 wives, and did the right thing by setting his second wife up on state welfare. If he was so tight with god, you'd think he'd ooze gold...

    He's working on his 3rd wife. Let me break him down for you.

    He was born in 1966, lived in colorado. Has 4 or more kids from 2 failed marriages.

    He started a computer repair business, semi successful. Bought BIG BIG things for himself. Big boat, big trailer, big truck, etc... This guy BRAGGED about himself so much... It was painful to listen to.

    He pissed it all away by running his business so poorly. Nearly eveything he had was repo'ed.

    SO? How does a man with such a BIG ego impress people with nothing? Something went wrong in his head, how could he be nothing? It's just not possible!!?? Oh, I see now... I'm the Holy Ghost in the Flesh. That's a spin that's never been taken.

    And now he impresses by using fear and promises on the stupid and infirm.

    It's been told that he's immortal. He can't be hurt. I'd knock him out, but I'm SURE he'd sue... So if someone has little to lose, punch him.

    When he was excommunicated he said the lord was in there with him and that everyone in the room turned away from the lord. I'm sorry, but there are good people in that room, and if even a shred of divine insperation was in that room, someone would have walked out with him. No one but Geo-dy did...

    He's a get rich quick guy. A grifter. This is his best gig yet. And he'll milk it for a number of years until the 'end of days' comes around, then BAM!! James town all over again.

    He's backed himself into a hole with this scam, so it will have to end badly, if not for him then for his followers.

    People actually pay him money (er... tithing...)

    Last but not least, Geody follows him around the internet praising him at every turn.

     

  • At 7:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Geody and Terrill are co-conspirators, or is that founders ;+) of the Church of the Firstborn http://www.thefirstborn.org/Church%20of%20the%20Firstborn.htm

    They are interesting people. I attended with them at their spring conference this year. It was held in a tent in their back yard.

    It was interesting, the feeling there. Because this is anonymous, I'll say that I have received some very noble blessings at the hands of Christ (not to suggest anyone in The Church of the Firstborn)--I mean literally. I went away from The Church of the Firstborn, musing how much that sounded like Joseph Smith's ploy, thus how easy it will be to "get" semi-apostates from the LDS church, looking for "true revelations" from the Lord, in their meetings and don't see them, because that isn't the 'program' today.

    These brethren held a more "sacred" meeting, after a general session, in which they discussed the temple ordinances, and gave additional signs and tokens, and clarified and set straight that which has been given to the LDS. It was fun watching the interaction between the people, who are mostly family members of Terrill and Geody. Geody came up to me and "bore his testimony" of how he began "hearing" the voice of God--it was an audible voice in his father's food-storage room.

    These brethren are doing some things they believe to be true. Is it true? Does it matter? Some believe it is, some believe it isn't. Some believe the LDS church is the ONLY true church on the earth, some don't. There are condemnatory doctrines that bind people into such beliefs, and if they don't they are destined to hell or some other punishment. Where is the REAL truth? As one becomes willing to give up EVERYTHING to do God's will, they will find condemnations are dogmas are NOT God's salvation system, but a means to get men moving.

    I could see right through everything that was going on, and kept pleading with Father to tell me why I was sent to attend their meetings. Finally, on the trip down, on the last day I attended, I was given a message to deliver to Geody. I don't know why Geody would ever listen to me, and he probably didn't nevertheless I was sent to warn him to be cautious of the deceptions placed before him. Now, who am I to deliver a message to Geody, Terrill or any other man? I don't know--I just followed along, and hoped I did right and some good.

    The last thing I'd like to share here is that Jehovah is NOT Jesus Christ, as Terrill suggests, or Bruce R. McConkie for that matter. What's more important is Jehovah is YHWH, the same that is the LORD of Hosts--a god of destruction in the Old Testament--this YHWH is tied to the El Shaddai of Mt. Sinai. The "god" is indeed a god of destruction, wrath, revenge and anger--not the "God" I have had any interaction with, but a different "god". Now, lest I come off sounding like T and G with some sort of word of the Lord, I'll share that the ideas I shared here about YHWH, Jehovah and El Shaddai, are easy enough to find in the Hebrew. Lawrence Gardner "Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark" is the best lay explanation of the same, and proves some interesting reading to boot, of the same thing.

    Interested in some dialogue email me at iZion1 at gmail dot com

     

  • At 2:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Have you had any more info on Terill Dalton Or Geody?

     

  • At 2:52 PM, Blogger Todd Jumper said…

    Terril and his friends still hang out on the mailing list below. He posts there from time to time and has not really changed much.

    http://www.greaterthings.com/OpenForum/Davids_Outcasts/

    David's Outcasts email addresses:
    Post message: davids_outcasts@yahoogroups.com
    Subscribe: davids_outcasts-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

     

  • At 6:56 PM, Blogger erichard said…

    More about these two guys is at www.cpuexpert.com where they have a multitude of new "translations" and revelations. A "complete list" is at:

    http://www.cpuexpert.com/The%20Sealed%20Books%20-%20Web.htm

    In this writing: http://www.cpuexpert.com/Seer%20of%20Jeruba.htm they specifically claim that Elder Thomas S Monson will be the man of sin spoken of in 2 Thess 2

    "3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the [Salt Lake City?] temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. "

    But Elder Monson does not have good health, so if he dies before becoming the President of the church, these prophet will have missed one.

    Richard

     

  • At 2:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Terrill has found his 3rd wife he is living with her.She is working and taking care of him and his brother Shawn and his wife Andrea,and as many of his family and friends as he can take there.
    They are very lazy people. He has broken up an entire family with his idiotic claims. I really don't know how anyone in their right mind can possibly believe what he says.

     

  • At 1:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    How long has Terrill and Geody been leaders of the church of the first born. And some one said they had a picture of where they live. Can it be posted here?

     

  • At 7:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Terrill Raemon Dalton is about as much the Holy Ghost as The Easter Bunny. He's nothing more than a fat, freeloading, tithing stealing, cunning con-artist who needs to learn the difference between a "stake" and a "steak".

     

  • At 1:37 AM, Anonymous John Q. Public said…

    Been years since I posted. But yes, I can put a picture of his house up.

    He was in Las Vegas for 1.5-2 years, if anyone knows what he was doing there, please fill in the gaps. May have been in Bullhead City as well.

    He's order all of his followers to SLC, Utah. Have them committed if they are considering the move.

     

  • At 1:27 AM, Anonymous John Q. Public said…

    Picture is here:

    http://kookcatcher.blogspot.com/

     

  • At 12:18 PM, Anonymous Kookcatcher said…

    It'd have been nice if you could have posted my post, pointing to my site, strictly so there could be fairly real-time discussion concerning that half-baked cult.

    Your post hurt your image more than it did anything to Terrill or LDS folk in general.

    I'm not LDS but loose-cannon vollies won't help your cause.

    Shout if you want to continue the exchange in a civil manner.

     

  • At 10:54 AM, Anonymous John Q. Public said…

    Invoking the law of consecration... Terrill has taken his 38 followers to Idaho, just south of Pocatello.

    He has told them in order to save thier families they they need to setup the commune.

    My wifes mother and father are selling thier house and giving the money to Terrill. These folks are in thier late 70's.

    If anyone has info on Terrill or Geody, please let me know.

    punkinpunch@yahoo.com

     

  • At 12:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Last week the home of Terrill R. Dalton and Geody Harmon was raided for suspected child sex abuse.

    They are still planing for a June 30th move to the compound in Idaho.

    I commend the former member that turned them in. Additionally if you read the myspace blogs from his sister it tells a fairly dark tale.

    www.myspace.com/logicbylinda

     

  • At 11:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Terrill and clan have relocated to Pocatello, Idaho. They already are known by law enforcement, churches, CPS and others that his fat ass is not even aware of. But, they are and will continue to watch him. All of this could go away as quickly as it came. Terrill just needs to do one small thing and all will be called off. A few extra bucks a month of your "income" is not worth it. Is it Terrill?

     

  • At 12:37 AM, Blogger Todd Jumper said…

    This post has generated so many phone calls to me over the years, emails etc. He is one shady character. I have had calls from husbands whos wives and children were taken in by Terril, families, cops, media and even the FBI!

    This is crazy. What in the hell is this man doing to attract so much negative attention. Even Jesus told us to not bring attention to ourselves, so by that means alone I find it disturbing.

     

  • At 8:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    It is likely that Terrill and his followers are now planning a move to somewhere in Montana. There is no real information regarding this, but, over a few years, Dalton and Harman have both claimed that their move would be to Idaho, Montana and so forth until the reach Missouri to set up the "City of Zion".

    They are not a cult to be dealt with lightly. Authorities need to take serious the threats that may well exist.

    I would challenge anyone who claims that Dalton and his followers are harmless. Under Dalton's leadership and Harman's, there is much danger and especially so for the children.

     

  • At 9:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Already, Terrill and Geody are in Montana at a place that they have sought to buy in Montana. Right now, there are five acres. Also an apartment there.

    They are preparing things so that the others of their cult might go ahead and move to Montana.

     

  • At 8:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Yeah, they're in Montana. How do we get rid of them?

     

  • At 5:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Terrill and Geody have now commanded his followers that all of their possessions, income, food stamps, and all that they have be turned over to the cult. Further, they are living somewhere near Billings, Montana with the Ahlstroms living still on the property in Idaho while they are trying to sell that property.

    Terrill's father and his wife are planning to move to Billings sometime after the first of the year when their house sells in Grand Junction.

    It is becoming more and more apparent that Terrill further plans to avoid paying taxes on what the members give to him.

    If someone is able to find where exactly they are with the phone number, there is a phone number for Terrill.

     

  • At 1:10 AM, Anonymous Concerned said…

    Goedy is in Montana, but not anywhere near Billings. But they seem to be split up. Some say Terrill is in AZ, possibly in Nevada.

    They told the indian tribe in Pocatello they were sent there to help them. God told them to. But what they failed to tell the local tribe is that the original plans to move to Rockland, ID. fell through and the reservation lot was quick plan B.

    I know much more than this, but because this website is also available to the cult, I am not going to share all the information.

    Terrill writes the future in his 'books of' but the future never turns out to be accurate in the least. The holy ghost doesn't have any idea of laws, permits, or building codes...

    Also, a core group of his 'followers' are becoming discontent and are leaking information to the authorities.

    Fun times.

     

  • At 2:32 PM, Blogger Todd Jumper said…

    I don't think he would be able to use any welfare checks as those are now debit cards which only the person authorized can use. Just a matter of time before he runs out of places to hide. I say we ship em all off to an island or reservation, and will see if they can build Zion from scratch without bumming off tax free government money.

     

  • At 3:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Update:
    Terrill and Geody are still together in Montana. Terrill and Geody just have not had any meetings lately at least on the internet.

    Yes, a core group of their believers have now left and I got a gut feeling more are about to leave. It could appear that this group is about to fold up as things go further.

     

  • At 9:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Geody is 38 miles southwest of Billings, MT.

     

  • At 9:22 AM, Blogger Todd Jumper said…

    I guess I will let Terrill finally defend himself on this blog. Here is what he has to say. Take it for what it is.

    That is precisely why it is for each to find him. NO ONE follows Terrill, though that is what many people think, and this because God caused me to form up a church, but nevertheless, no one follows me, for each in the Church of the Firstborn are responsible for themselves, for going to God and asking what is true and what is not.



    As to being falsely accused of many things, even upon this very list, which I am sure is why Todd was asked questions by the FBI, who even raided my home, with 20 + men all to find that all the accusations were false. And yet Todd and others will believe the men who are investigating. How many times did Joseph have the constable sent to him to watch him, to arrest him and, to take him to prison?



    It is no different here, for when ever you have truth coming forth, Satan causes those who are not of God to believe a lie, to falsely accuse those teaching the truth. Now many people put me down for stating the truth, even the truth that when ever truth has been given, no matter where it was in the history of the world, people came against it, for all the prophets have been persecuted, and even Jesus Christ, the most perfect man who ever walked the earth was accused of many false things and he still is.



    It seems to me, that one wanted to find the truth, they would just have to look for the greatest persecution is going on, for often times, I do find that truth is in that very place.



    Just for the record, so that those on this list may know, There is a man whom I was his ex wife, whom I did marry as my wife, who has a son. Now this man for the past 8 years has done all that he can to take his son from his ex. She was LDS, yet, he told the courts that she belonged to a cult, and lived in a commune. This happened while she lived at home with her mom and dad. 4 years later, I came into the picture, and since I was a small group, he created many other lies and told the authorities these things, adding to his past accusations. This man is or has been a member of this list and has directly attacked me on this list, which is probably why Todd was questioned by the FBI, as Todd has claimed. Now when he attacked, I said nothing back, for I did not feel to add fuel to the fire.



    Now I have been investigated even more times then the one I speak of and yet am I not guilty of the things which they have tried to come against me with. I wont repeat all the things that has been said against me and others in the church, but I will say, they are of a most vile and ugly nature that anyone can be accused of.



    I guess that is why, only those who hearken unto the spirit of God shall know I am of God, and those who hearken unto the words of men will fall by the wayside, for they will believe the lies of these men over the truth of God. Remember the scriptures, for the adversary is the accuser of the saints who accuses them all the day long.



    You will notice that when ever I share my testimony, many come against me, and it happens over and over and over again. When ever any prophet in the scriptures spoke, men came against them, and it happened over and over and over again. The war is real, though not seen by most, for they only see that which God allows them to see, and thus they see not the devils, and angels who around us constantly fighting for us and against us. But because most on this earth do not follow God, but moreover follow the devils of the earth not knowing it, they are led to come against the true believers of God, and have done so ever since the beginning when the truth was revealed, and they will anytime the truth is revealed.



    Now how many will come against me in these words that I have written, watch and see, for they cannot help but to do so….



    Terrill

     

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